My guest today is Lorraine Connell. She first caught my attention with some great blog posts on her site Peers Not Fears and now she has a new podcast that features voices of students, as well as teachers called Unimagined. Among other things, she has been working with all students to help develop their leadership skills.

Ron Berger, my educational hero, joins me to talk about his new book, We Are Crew: A Teamwork Approach to School Culture and presents some important and beautiful ideas about what education should really be all about.